2 Traditionalist Archbishops
When people think of the Lefebvrites and the Thucites, they immediately think of two opposing forces. However, Archbishops Lefebvre and Ngo-Dihn Thuc were close friends from the '60's on. They served on the same Roman Commission prior to their Traditionalist escapades. It is reported that Ngo-Dihn Thuc spent some time at Econe and was invited to teach there by Lefebvre. (Note the search box above is provided so you can verify this information.) Fr. Noel Barbara reports that Clemente of Palmar de Troya, Spain came first to Econe and was sent to Ngo-Dihn Thuc, who was not busy at the time, to ask him to perform the ordinations and consecrations there. There apparently was some link between Clemente and Lefebvre, because in Rome some Clemente bishops had been there purchasing miters claiming to be affiliated with Lefebvre as one clerical tailor reported: your bishops have been here purchasing miters. (This report comes in 1977)1. Ricardo Rodger by des Lauriers. It is said Rodeger no longer functions as bishop.2. Daniel Dolan by Mark Pivarunas CMRI, which is a descendant of the Sckuckardt organization after separating from Schuckardt. Pivarunas was consecrated by Moises Carmona, who had been consecrated by Ngo-Dihn Thuc in October, 1981.From Fr. Noel Barbara’s Episcopal Consecrations Without a Papal Mandate & The Episcopal Consecrations Conferred By His Excellency Archbishop Peter-Martin Ngo Dinh Thuc (Fortes in Fide, number 12): Archbishop Lefebvre knew Archbishop Ngo Dinh Thuc quite well from the Second Vatican Council. He considered him to be a bishop with good doctrinal views. Like himself, this bishop belonged to the conservative group. It was because he considered him to be a Catholic bishop, committed to the faith, devoted to Mary, and having nothing to do, that he encouraged him to work with the emissaries of Palmar de Troya who had come to Econe in order to solicit his Episcopal services. I heard these facts directly from Archbishop Lefebvvre.One day, a canon of Saint Maurice, named Father Revas, arrived at the seminary in Econe. He was accompanied by a priest who spoke English. A love of the extraordinary, both had come fro the location of the Apparitions. They came straight from Palmar to beg Archbishop Lefebvre to come to this location immediately because the Blessed Virgin was waiting for him. She was insisting that a Catholic bishop come in order to confer the episcopacy on those she planned to designate.The Archbishop excused himself and advised them to “approach Archbishop Thuc. He is orthodox and he is not at present occupied. Go and seek him out. He will most certainly agree with your request.” The two messengers immediately left and had no difficulty in convincing the elderly Vietnamese Archbishop to respond to the Virgin’s request.As I explained, I have these explanations directly from the mouth of Archbishop Lefebvre. He informed us of these facts on the occasion of a visit I made to Econe when someone brought up the name of Archbishop Thuc at the dinner table.
